Tor,

"He was a groomer.
and his military service wasn't impressive compare to other gay people."

I bring something up from time to time because it was an honor to have known someone.

The summer of 1975 I was in the Navy and was friends with Leonard Matlovich who was in the Air Force. Sept of that year he was on the cover of Time magazine with the caption "I am a Homosexual". Believe it or not, that was actually earth shattering news for a lot of mainstream America who believed the military was all straight.

He was the first active duty gay person to deliberately out himself to his commanding officer and bring the wrath of the military anti-gay policy onto himself. This was long before DADT when simply no gays were permitted and you had to lie to sign up and live in continual fear of being exposed. I ended being discharged the end of that year. I got 2 versions of my DD-214. One said "Homosexuality-Unfitness" and the other left that box blank. I got a General Under Honorable conditions discharge and retained all benefits.

Leo had an exemplary military record and deserved to be recognized more than he was.

He was known well by many gay people but they didn't make a movie about him.

Snoofy,

"Why would you do that, that's the part we really don't understand."

My parents split up when I was in Middle School. Couldn't live with my mom or my dad. Neither worked out.

No other relatives. No siblings or other relatives I knew.

My dad was Army all my childhood and we moved constantly so I had no stability. I dropped out of high school after 10th grade.

I turned 17 and had to get on my own. Mom was pretty messed up from the divorce and my dad couldn't relate to me so we had no relationship. After trying to live with him things began turning violent. Lost contact with him when I signed up.

Right after turning 17 I joined the Navy. My entrance exam qualified me for anything I wanted to do except nuclear.

After being assigned to a squadren (I had gone into avionics), while on a cruise I was spotted overseas coming out of a gay bar by men I worked in the same shop.

The military was about my only option I could see at the time so that's the reason I joined.

The specifics when I became sexually active is more detail than is anyone's business.

Msgt,

And all the statues removed and didn't accomplish a thing except make dems look more petty and oblivious to real problems.

They're more focused on conformity of thought and call it progress.

Even Biden's press secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre left the Democratic Party.

Snoofy,

"BillJohnson...knows gays need to be kept in their place in the closet and out of the military.'

Your post was slanderous and personal.

I am resurrecting my Do Not Post lost.

You're the first name on it. Any post directed at me or about me from you will go unread.

You might actually be demon-possessed. I want no communication with you...now or ever.

Alex,

"Maybe he's the tooth fairy."

If people would suggest Trump is the antichrist, a literal figure from the Bible, its not unreasonsible to point to other Biblical entities as well

Howevern, the last I checked, the tooth fairy isn't mentioned anywhere in Scripture.

Clown,

You know that's not true.

But hey...if you're trying to make my list, you'll have to work a little harder.

Dan,

To be the Antichrist, you have to check all the boxes and not just a few.

Trump can't be the Antichrist.

The real one will be admired worldwide, hailed as a savior, and perform signs that deceive the masses.

He won't cause mass hatred. He'll inspire global worship.

The Bible says the world will love the Antichrist.

Trump? Half the world wants him in prison.

Clown,

The Bible says the antichrist will deceive the world and appear good.

His sins won't be so obvious.

What you listed defines a "sinner", not the antichrist.

Clown,

I'd wager a bet every one of the sins you listed you've committed one time or another, as have I.

In fact, you've done at least one today.

Right now, at this very moment, you're being wrathful and prideful.

Clown,

What's funny though is any other time you'd probably be offended if someone preached at you telling you repent from your sinful ways.

But if you do the finger pointing at Trump or me it's no problem.

And then you would call me a hypocrite.

How did Jesus put? Why do you complain about someone having a splinter in their eye when you have a log in yours?

Clown,

"Projection, Bill?"

I already said I'm guilty of sinning.

This is getting boring since you're not bothering to think.

Dan,

"Noting you lied to get into the service, lied to stay in the service, allowed a lie on your discharge papers"

That's right.

Shame the victim.

If living it wasn't bad enough, not just me but the gays who fought and died and loved their country, you treat these people who were forced to lie and hide their true identity and live in fear for their careers snd even their own safety, with contempt.

Dan,

Not to mention, it was people like me who lived the lie, endured the pain, and paid the price.

We're the ones who paved the way for the freedoms gays have today.

Not just in the military, but all the way back to Stonewall.

We didn't get here without scars.

And now I'm supposed to be treated with scorn for lying just to live.

Some people talk out their --- with no clue what gays had to do just to survive back then.

Laura,

"And yet you vote for candidates that will relegates LGBTQIA people to 2nd and 3rd class status"

Gays have the unfortunate situation of being aligned with godless baby-killers who are bigger hypocrites than any conservative but are oblivious to this fact.

Conservatives aren't pretending to be saints.

I'm done with this thread.

Sy,

One more....

"Thank you for voting to take us back to that time."

You can't see the truth if it bit you.

A combination of radical gays and atheists who are using gays as pawns, are the ones making it harder for gay people.

Dan,

"You've been running from it all your life."

Really? I've been open about it on this site for 20 years.

My message has always been to learn to accept yourself even without validation from the straight world (because it's going to be in short supply).

From a Christian standpoint, I don't see homosexuality in the Bible as worse than any other sexual sin. Without salvation, the outcome is the same for everyone.

And let's be real. A lot of straight Christians who attack gays were already full of hate before they ever picked up a Bible. Now they just use scripture to justify it. Those people didn't learn to hate gays from their church.

So tell me, what exactly have you been doing on here that qualifies as trying to encourage conflicted gays?

I deal in reality...not fantasies.

Danni,

A lot has changed the last couple of decades.

Most straight people are stepping back from their intolerance and seeing gays as having rights.

But....now....I'm been seeing gays themselves shooting themselves in the foot because they can't be satisified with anything.

If it's not straight people being more tolerant, now they are demanding straights practically start marching in gay parades and waving flags to prove their acceptance.

Like I said, I think now where things are evolving gays are beginning to be their own worse enemy.

Now they are attacking Christianity and in particular Freedom of Religion.

Things have evolved but radicals and atheists are now on a campaign to discredit religion as their next trick.

Danni,

A lot has changed over the last couple of decades.

Most straight people have stepped back from their old intolerance and now recognize that gays have rights, just like anyone else.

But now, I'm seeing gays shoot themselves in the foot because, for some, nothing is ever enough.

It's not enough that straight people are more tolerant. Now they're expected to march in pride parades and wave flags to prove it.

Like I said before, we're reaching a point where gays are becoming their own worst enemy.

And now? The target is Christianity and especially freedom of religion.

Yes, things have evolved. But radicals and atheists have moved on to their next trick, discrediting faith altogether.

Danni,

oops...two versions...

Corky,

We should've voted for Cackles?

Seriously?

The one whose only real qualification is doing exactly what she's told...no questions asked?

Who can't hold an interview because she needs to be scripted and rehearsed?